Posts by Coded Logic

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Who is your favourite thinker?

by The Rebel in

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having recently read orwells 1984, i was impressed with how he understood that both politicians and people abuse language.

this further confirmed to me how the w.t had deceived me by using words to distort reality.

the book 1984, also contains many other great thoughts of george orwell.. of course there have been many other great thinkers, buddah, darwin, freud, einstein and marx come to mind.

Coded Logic

Christopher Hitchens was a great orator, polemic and knew his history nearly as well as he knew how to captivate an audience. One of my favorite quotes from him sums him up his career pretty well - when asked why he became a journalist he said, "Because I didn't want to have to rely on the media for my information."

He was (perhaps still is) the only journalist to have traveled to Iran, Iraq (before and after the war), and North Korea. He also traveled to Palestine, Israel, and moved back and forth between the opposing sides of Crete. I don't think there was ever alive a person as well versed, educated, and internationally experienced as the man.

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But I think my all time favorite is the neuroscientist Sam Harris. His musings on morality and free will have been absolutely mind opening to me and have truly informed how I perceive world as a moral landscape. If ever there was a jedi master of meta-ethics, surely it is this man.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMFnSTPsbFg

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The new service meeting

by John Aquila in

i wanted to relate an experience that happened this morning.

it is regarding the new format for the meeting on thursdays in my area.

its not word for word but im summarizing what i heard, the best i can remember.

Coded Logic

The good ol' BS meter is ringing loud and true with this one. As I was reading I couldn't help but think to myself that it reminded me of another post where someone said a large group of witnesses (aged 65+) meet every few months to discuss the problems with the WT. And what do you know, it's the same poster http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5646617008930816/something-interesting

While I don't think OP is anything other than a good yarn - I wouldn't be surprised if many of the older ones feel this way - even if they do keep quiet about it.

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Warwick -How much will it cost to build?

by TakeOffTheCrown in

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there are some good minds on this forum.

how much will it cost, in your estimation, to build warwick?

Coded Logic

It's a considerable project. One has to factor in the cost of the land, the permits, the materials, equipment purchases/rentals, feeding/housing volunteers, and paying contractors. I think ROs ballpark of 200-300 million is a pretty good guess for a project of this size.

But when I hear of all the little wacky things they're doing like having a switch that can drain the entire lake and putting in electric heating into all the ground level floors - I wonder how much all that extra stuff might add up to. And what other crazy things are they spending money on that we haven't heard about yet?

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Where does the money come from to operate the Hospital Information network?

by OrphanCrow in

the recent buzz that has hit the online communities concerning the watchtower society and their evil offspring - the jw org - revolves around their apparent financial difficulties.

many factors have been discussed - the real estate flips (and flops), the changes in meetings and field service, the need for donations to cover expenses, the push for donations.

where does the money come from to operate the hospital information network?

Coded Logic

I'm really confused as to what exactly what you think costs so much. When you say "extensive" medical library do you mean a collection of medical papers published on the topic of blood? And when you say "copious amounts of promotional propaganda" are you talking about the Watchtower and Awake?

If so, I don't see any extensive costs here. A subscription to a network of peer reviewed medical papers only costs a few hundred dollars a year. And the WT and Awake are existing avenues of propaganda.

Or, are you talking about something else? Are you saying that the WT funds research into bloodless treatments? And that it pays to have that research sent to medical institutes and hospitals?

Can you be a little more specific in what the HIS does?

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Warwick Photo Gallery 4 (May Through August 2015)

by wifibandit in

full set: http://imgur.com/a/djhfe.

sample:.

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Coded Logic

Using a paint roller on a steel tube for that whole bridge? WTF? Can they not afford to spend a whopping $50 on a paint sprayer?

Are they going to give the bros a pair of scissors next to mow the lawn? Just how much "busy work" do they have going on there?

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The Left And Islam

by Bangalore in

the left and islam.

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Coded Logic

How can they openly support and defend letting millions of people from a religious background that HATES HATES HATES our sexual preferences into our country and expect them to fit right in nice and cozy?
- Macys

Opposed to the millions of Christians already living here that hate homosexuals because of their religious backgrounds?

There's a profound difference between hating particular ideologies within a religion vs. hating all the people of that religion.

And there's a huge difference between pointing out some of the challenges of cultural integration vs. just simply implying that Muslims could never integrate. I really feel it does a great disservice to this much needed dialog when we exercise the soft bigotry of low expectations.

As a liberal, I believe that people have the fundamental right to practice the religion of their choice so long as they're not infringing on anyone else's rights. This is a value that has been effectively taught to - and practiced by - people from every background and culture who've migrated to the West. And in the specific cases where we do see individuals trespassing upon the rights of others we deal with those specific individuals. But, what we DON'T do, is just write off 1.6 Billion people for no reason other than the cultural and religious label they attach to themselves.

Islam is not a monolith. And there's no reason why with the right educational tools and a little tolerance we can't bring hundreds of millions of Muslims into the twenty first century.

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How many visitors do we get ?

by Simon in

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someone was asking me in the chatroom about the number of hits the site gets.

here is a brief summary (of what we currently get per week):.

21,000 visitors.

Coded Logic

Wow, not bad stats for 15 years ago! I wonder what the number of visits per week are now? (though I suspect the number of AOL users might be slightly lower)

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Geoffrey Jackson and the Australian Royal Commission's timing of events

by Tenacious in

i'm not sure why i was thinking this but does anyone else find it an incredibly rare coincidence that geoffrey jackson just so happened to be in australia attending to his father when the arc happen to be at the exact stage for him to be deposed as a witness?

what are the chances of him being in the country at that precise moment?.

divine intervention?

Coded Logic

I don't see this as being too much of a coincidence. How often does Jackson go to Austrailia? Probably two or three times a year. Plus, how often do any of the other members end up visiting on assignment? Out of the rest of them combined, probably an additional two or three times a year.

So, it's probably safe to say there's a GB member in Australia about six weeks a year and, due to them being used at the various conventions, most likely none of those weeks would overlap. We also have to consider that there was a two week overlap from when the ARC wanted to interview Jackson to when he showed up. All told, the odds that one of the GB would be available in any given two week period of the year is 29%. Or, just a hair under one in three.

Happy coincidence. Nothing too amazing or surprising about those odds.

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Another Sex Offender cover up

by Coded Logic in

a jehovahs witness who got sexual kicks from strangling young girls went unpunished for years after his activities were covered up by the congregation at the warwick church he attended.but perverted ian pheaseys past finally caught up with him when one of his victims went to the police having become concerned about him getting a job at a hospice.the warwick resident was jailed for five years after pleading guilty at warwick crown court to assaulting one girl causing her actual bodily harm and two of indecently assaulting other girls.the 54 year-old of langcliffe avenue, was also ordered to register as a sex offender for life and given a sexual harm prevention order restricting his contact with children.the offences pheasey admitted dated back to the 1990s when he was a member of the congregation at the kingdom hall of jehovahs witnesses in the woodloes area.his first victim was attacked in the kingdom hall library, where pheasey was the librarian at the time, when the seven-year-old girl went to get a book.prosecutor nicholas taplow told the court how pheasey closed the door, and as she reached for the book, he grabbed her .

.. http://leamingtonobserver.co.uk/news/pervert-jehovahs-witness-jailed-string-assaults-young-girls/.

... the response "we despise child molesters" by the society is truly getting more and more ridiculous everyday.

Coded Logic

A JEHOVAH’S Witness who got sexual kicks from strangling young girls went unpunished for years – after his activities were covered up by the congregation at the Warwick church he attended.
But perverted Ian Pheasey’s past finally caught up with him when one of his victims went to the police having become concerned about him getting a job at a hospice.
The Warwick resident was jailed for five years after pleading guilty at Warwick Crown Court to assaulting one girl causing her actual bodily harm and two of indecently assaulting other girls.
The 54 year-old of Langcliffe Avenue, was also ordered to register as a sex offender for life and given a sexual harm prevention order restricting his contact with children.
The offences Pheasey admitted dated back to the 1990s when he was a member of the congregation at the Kingdom Hall of Jehovah’s Witnesses in the Woodloes area.
His first victim was attacked in the Kingdom Hall library, where Pheasey was the librarian at the time, when the seven-year-old girl went to get a book.
Prosecutor Nicholas Taplow told the court how Pheasey closed the door, and as she reached for the book, he grabbed her . . .

http://leamingtonobserver.co.uk/news/pervert-jehovahs-witness-jailed-string-assaults-young-girls/

... The response "we despise child molesters" by the Society is truly getting more and more ridiculous everyday

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjbPi00k_ME

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Lurkers: A truth is either true, or it isn't. There is no in between.

by cappytan in

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truth is absolute.

there is no such thing as 2=1 or 1=2.. if one starts out with the equation 2=1, one has already failed.. truth = truth.

you cannot change whether something is truth or not.. when the organization teaches one thing as a truth (ex.

Coded Logic

But the point was on the "absolute truth"

I don't follow you. Can you explain the difference between (regular) truth and "absolute" truth?